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04/08/2021 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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09:06:16 AM Presentation: American Rescue Plan Act of 2021: Office of Management and Budget
10:33:27 AM Presentation: American Rescue Plan Act of 2021: Legislative Finance Division
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- Neil Steininger, Director, Office of
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- Alexei Painter, Director, Legislative Finance
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       April 8, 2021                                                                                            
                         9:04 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:04:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 9:04 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Kelly Merrick, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Sara Rasmussen                                                                                                   
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Neil Steininger, Director, Office  of Management and Budget,                                                                    
Office of  the Governor;  Paloma Harbour,  Fiscal Management                                                                    
Analyst,  Office of  Management  and Budget,  Office of  the                                                                    
Governor;  Alexei  Painter,  Director,  Legislative  Finance                                                                    
Division.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: AMERICAN  RESCUE PLAN  ACT OF 2021:  OFFICE OF                                                                    
MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN  ACT OF 2021: LEGISLATIVE                                                                    
FINANCE DIVISION                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: AMERICAN  RESCUE PLAN ACT OF  2021: OFFICE OF                                                                  
MANAGEMENT and BUDGET                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:06:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE   OF   THE    GOVERNOR,   introduced   a   PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation titled  "State of  Alaska Office  of Management                                                                    
and   Budget:  Senate   Finance   COVID-19  Relief   Funding                                                                    
Overview," dated  April 8,  2021 (copy  on file).  He stated                                                                    
that the American Rescue Plan Act  (ARPA) was the sixth in a                                                                    
series  of federal  fiscal response  packages over  the past                                                                    
year  in  response  to the  COVID-19  pandemic.  The  relief                                                                    
package  most talked  about thus  far was  the third  relief                                                                    
package, the Coronavirus Aid,  Relief, and Economic Security                                                                    
(CARES) Act that  brought $1.25 billion to  the state. Prior                                                                    
to  the CARES  Act, there  had  been two  smaller acts  with                                                                    
smaller amounts of funding focused  on various areas such as                                                                    
vaccines and leave for employees  who were sickened by COVID                                                                    
or were impacted by Coronavirus in some way.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger detailed  that the  CARES  Act had  provided                                                                    
much of  the fiscal response  for second order  impacts over                                                                    
the  past year.  He  stated  that ARPA  built  on the  prior                                                                    
funding  to address  some  of the  second  order impacts  of                                                                    
COVID on  states, communities,  and economies.  The timeline                                                                    
on slide 2  showed the various federal  fiscal responses. He                                                                    
referenced  a  spreadsheet  titled  "Attachment  1"  showing                                                                    
federal  funding to  Alaska for  COVID-19 response  (copy on                                                                    
file). The spreadsheet listed the  various grants under each                                                                    
of the federal  relief acts. He noted  that the presentation                                                                    
used  color coding  for  the various  federal  acts to  make                                                                    
things clearer.  He referred to  names of the  various acts.                                                                    
He  detailed that  green represented  the initial  responses                                                                    
from the federal  government in the spring of  2002. The act                                                                    
introduced  in  December   2020  [Coronavirus  Response  and                                                                    
Relief Supplemental  Appropriations Act (CRRSAA)]  was shown                                                                    
in blue and  ARPA, the most recent relief,  was reflected in                                                                    
purple. He relayed that the  Office of Management and Budget                                                                    
(OMB)  was still  working through  its understanding  of the                                                                    
various pots of money coming to the state.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  added that  the bright  yellow shown  in the                                                                    
spreadsheet  reflected  grant  items that  still  needed  an                                                                    
appropriation  to expend.  The green  in the  CRRSAA section                                                                    
represented  items  that  OMB   had  submitted  for  an  RPL                                                                    
[revised  program   legislative]  or  had  put   forward  an                                                                    
appropriation request  in the  normal budget  process. White                                                                    
items on  the sheet  reflected items where  no appropriation                                                                    
was  required,   or  an   appropriation  had   already  been                                                                    
received.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PALOMA  HARBOUR,   FISCAL  MANAGEMENT  ANALYST,   OFFICE  OF                                                                    
MANAGEMENT  AND BUDGET,  OFFICE  OF THE  GOVERNOR, moved  to                                                                    
slide 3 and discussed that  the largest pot of discretionary                                                                    
funding for  COVID relief was  the Coronavirus  Relief Funds                                                                    
(CRF).  She explained  that  when the  funds  had been  made                                                                    
available in the  spring of 2020 there had  been three broad                                                                    
guidelines  from the  federal  government on  how the  funds                                                                    
could be spent.  The funds had to  be necessary expenditures                                                                    
incurred due  to the public  health emergency,  the expenses                                                                    
could  not  have  been  accounted for  in  the  budget  most                                                                    
recently  approved,  and the  expenses  had  to be  incurred                                                                    
between March  1, 2020,  and December  30, 2020.  She stated                                                                    
there had been  very little guidance and a  short time frame                                                                    
in which  to spend the  funding. The legislature  had passed                                                                    
appropriations  for the  funding in  the April  to May  2020                                                                    
timeframe. She elaborated  that RPLs had been  used for part                                                                    
of the funding.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Harbour  highlighted  that   a  number  of  iterations,                                                                    
guidance, and  frequently asked questions had  been released                                                                    
after  the  act,  providing  clarity  on  allowable  funding                                                                    
expenditures.   She   stated   that   flexibility   in   the                                                                    
appropriations had been critical  for the state's ability to                                                                    
utilize the funding as the guidance continued to change.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:11:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour advanced  to a pie chart on slide  4 showing how                                                                    
CRF  funds   had  been  spent.   The  CRF  funds   had  been                                                                    
appropriated in  the spring  of 2020  and were  almost fully                                                                    
allocated.  There  was  a $45  million  reserve  to  address                                                                    
potential  needs yet  to be  identified  (e.g., a  potential                                                                    
surge in  cases). She explained  that if the funds  were not                                                                    
needed  for emergent  needs, they  could be  used to  offset                                                                    
agency costs at the end of  the fiscal year and increase the                                                                    
undesignated  general funds  (UGF) lapse.  She referenced  a                                                                    
spreadsheet  titled  "Attachment   2"  in  members'  packets                                                                    
showing  Alaska CRF  allocations and  expenditures (copy  on                                                                    
file). The  spreadsheet included additional  details showing                                                                    
how funding  was allocated to various  projects. She relayed                                                                    
that Alaska had  been selected for a desk review  of the CRF                                                                    
funding. She  detailed that OMB  had an  entrance conference                                                                    
with U.S.  Treasury, Office of Inspector  General (OIG). She                                                                    
explained that  OMB had responded to  OIG's initial document                                                                    
request. She expounded  that OIG had a July  target date for                                                                    
its  preliminary report,  which  OMB would  respond to.  She                                                                    
relayed  that  OIG's  final report  should  be  released  in                                                                    
August.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  appreciated   the  presentation.  He                                                                    
referenced the  terms "allocated" versus  "appropriated." He                                                                    
shared  that he  had watched  the presentation  when it  had                                                                    
been  given  in  the  other  body and  had  heard  the  word                                                                    
appropriation,  while   he  had   heard  the   words  "fully                                                                    
allocated" in  the current presentation. He  stated that the                                                                    
funds  that the  CARES Act  funds had  gone through  the RPL                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  believed there  was an  open question                                                                    
for  calendar year  2021 in  terms  of what  the ARPA  funds                                                                    
would  entail once  the  Treasury  guidelines were  received                                                                    
around May 10.  He stated that for him it  was still an open                                                                    
question in terms of who  had the ability to appropriate the                                                                    
money and distribute it to Alaskans.  He asked if it was the                                                                    
governor in the  RPL process or the  legislature through the                                                                    
appropriation  process. Additionally,  he asked  whether the                                                                    
word "appropriation"  was synonymous with going  through the                                                                    
RPL   process  as   well  as   being  appropriated   by  the                                                                    
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger answered  that anything  shown in  yellow on                                                                    
the list of grants coming  in, particularly the ARPA grants,                                                                    
required appropriation  of federal receipt authority  by the                                                                    
legislature to state agencies for  the ability to expend the                                                                    
funds.   He  referenced   discussion   on  allocations   and                                                                    
explained  that   appropriations  had   been  made   to  the                                                                    
Department of  Health and Social Services  (DHSS) or through                                                                    
the RPL  process. He  noted the  RPL process  represented an                                                                    
appropriation included in the  appropriations bill action on                                                                    
a  specific  appropriation.  He  detailed  that  flexibility                                                                    
within appropriations  allowed the state to  slightly modify                                                                    
plans  as [updated  federal] guidance  came out  through the                                                                    
summer.  The $45  million represented  on slide  4 reflected                                                                    
unallocated portions of the  appropriation to DHSS emergency                                                                    
programs where  much of  the response  mitigation activities                                                                    
had been  managed. He  stated there was  a small  portion of                                                                    
the  $45 million  that was  unallocated. He  reiterated that                                                                    
the $45 million was money appropriated to DHSS.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:16:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  stated  his understanding  that  the                                                                    
word  "appropriation" could  be used  synonymously with  the                                                                    
RPL  process  that  had  authorized   the  $568  million  in                                                                    
community   relief  grants   in   2020.   He  believed   the                                                                    
legislature had  authorized the action  later on.  He stated                                                                    
that   OMB's  presentation   was   not   opining  on   whose                                                                    
responsibility  it was  with the  ARPA  funds henceforth  on                                                                    
receipt  of [federal]  guidelines specifying  how the  funds                                                                    
could and could not be used.  He wanted to be clear that the                                                                    
word appropriation could mean  after the legislature was out                                                                    
of  session and  while the  legislature was  in session  and                                                                    
that  it   was  not  code   for  "the  legislature   has  to                                                                    
appropriate the ARPA money." He  stated he would ask further                                                                    
questions if he continued to receive an ambiguous response.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster recognized  that  Representative LeBon  had                                                                    
joined the meeting.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson looked at  slide 4 related to other                                                                    
COVID costs.  He remarked  there was  $45 million  the state                                                                    
had control  of for use  on emergent expenses. He  asked for                                                                    
verification that  the funds  could be  used to  backfill or                                                                    
supplant other  DHSS expenses  if the  state could  not find                                                                    
meaningful ways  to spend the  funds in the next  two months                                                                    
and three weeks.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied that slide  4 showed expenditures the                                                                    
state had  made in  response to COVID.  He explained  it was                                                                    
not  that the  state  had  not spent  state  funds on  COVID                                                                    
response that  could be eligible for  reimbursement from the                                                                    
$45 million. He expounded that  the state had not reimbursed                                                                    
some of  the state costs  because agencies had been  able to                                                                    
absorb some  of their spending  on COVID. He  continued that                                                                    
at the  end of  the year,  if the state  did not  have other                                                                    
emergent needs requiring  the use of the  federal monies, it                                                                    
could reimburse  state agencies for  the costs  incurred due                                                                    
to  COVID. He  explained that  the action  would effectively                                                                    
lapse the general funds agencies had used.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger explained  that at  the end  of FY  20 there                                                                    
were  costs incurred  in the  Department  of Public  Safety,                                                                    
which  was a  presumptively eligible  cost for  COVID relief                                                                    
funds  (any public  safety personnel  costs). He  elaborated                                                                    
that at  the end of  the fiscal year,  a portion of  the CRF                                                                    
funds had been used to  reimburse some of the personnel cost                                                                    
in order  to lapse additional money  into the Constitutional                                                                    
Budget Reserve  (CBR). He clarified  that the CRF  funds had                                                                    
not all been used because  some funds were necessary in case                                                                    
of emergent situations requiring  response by the state that                                                                    
fit within the CRF  guidelines. The administration was still                                                                    
sitting on  the $45 million  in the  event there was  a need                                                                    
for the  funding, but  there were  plenty of  costs incurred                                                                    
throughout   state  government   that   were  eligible   for                                                                    
reimbursement from the  funds. He stated that at  the end of                                                                    
the day, the money would not go unutilized.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:20:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked if it  would be knowable to a                                                                    
legislator prior to adjournment, what funding would lapse.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  answered  that  OMB  updated  and  provided                                                                    
reports  to  the  legislature on  all  spending  related  to                                                                    
COVID,  including how  much of  the CRF  was unexpended.  He                                                                    
stated  that the  decision about  whether to  offset general                                                                    
fund costs in  agencies - agencies that  did not necessarily                                                                    
need the  offset to meet other  needs - would happen  at the                                                                    
end of  the fiscal year  based on  whether or not  the state                                                                    
had  to utilize  the $45  million for  more specific  COVID-                                                                    
related emergent  events. He added  that the amount  may not                                                                    
be  knowable [prior  to adjournment]  because OMB  would not                                                                    
know until the end of the fiscal year.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson knew  there  were existing  requests                                                                    
for money  from the state,  which could potentially  be paid                                                                    
from  the [CRF]  fund and  agencies could  potentially lapse                                                                    
their  money. She  wondered at  what point  the state  would                                                                    
decide  it would  no longer  hang on  to the  funds and  the                                                                    
money would be fully expended.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger replied  that  it was  a  balancing act.  He                                                                    
explained that  the CRF  was only  eligible for  use through                                                                    
the end of the calendar year.  He elaborated that due to the                                                                    
incoming federal ARPA funds it  loosened up the need to hold                                                                    
onto  the  $45 million  in  contingency.  He stated  it  was                                                                    
likely the state  would soon have a  better understanding of                                                                    
how the  CRF funds  would be  used once  there was  a better                                                                    
understanding of how  ARPA funds could be  used. He remarked                                                                    
that from  the high level eligibility  criteria, it appeared                                                                    
the CRF  looked to be more  flexible in some ways  than ARPA                                                                    
funding;  however, until  the state  received more  specific                                                                    
guidance on ARPA  it was difficult to  make commitments with                                                                    
the $45 million [in CRF funding] outside of emergent needs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:23:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour turned  to slide 5 showing  state agency current                                                                    
COVID-19  expenditures. The  slide  showed  there was  about                                                                    
$116  million  in state  incurred  expenses,  part of  which                                                                    
could be offset with CRF.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  moved  to slide  6  outlining  the  current                                                                    
information  on ARPA  eligibility criteria.  Similar to  the                                                                    
CRF,  broad categories  had been  identified  for ARPA.  The                                                                    
funds  could be  used to  cover expenses  to respond  to the                                                                    
public health  emergency and its negative  economic impacts;                                                                    
to  respond   to  workers   performing  essential   work  by                                                                    
providing  premium   pay  to   eligible  workers;   for  the                                                                    
provision  of  government  services  to the  extent  of  the                                                                    
reduction in revenue due to  COVID-19; and to make necessary                                                                    
investments  in water,  sewer, or  broadband infrastructure.                                                                    
The  act  included a  couple  of  specific restrictions.  He                                                                    
detailed that direct  or indirect offsets to  a reduction in                                                                    
net tax revenue resulting from  a change in law, regulation,                                                                    
or   administrative   interpretation,   was   not   allowed.                                                                    
Additionally,  deposits  into  any  pension  fund  were  not                                                                    
allowed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger continued  to address  slide  6 and  relayed                                                                    
there had  been many questions  about all of the  pieces. He                                                                    
shared  that   the  state  had  participated   with  several                                                                    
different  organizations including  the National  Governor's                                                                    
Association  and the  National Association  of State  Budget                                                                    
Officers in compiling  questions on the guidance  to send to                                                                    
the  Treasury. He  stated it  appeared Treasury  had learned                                                                    
from  experience and  feedback the  previous summer  when it                                                                    
had  issued many  iterations of  guidance. He  reported that                                                                    
Treasury seemed much  more interested in getting  as many of                                                                    
the questions in  upfront in order to  provide more complete                                                                    
guidance. The federal guidance was  not due until May 10. He                                                                    
noted that OMB  was hopeful the guidance  would come sooner,                                                                    
but it may not happen.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  provided an example  of the scale  and scope                                                                    
of questions coming in. He  highlighted that the letter from                                                                    
the  National Governor's  Association (included  in members'                                                                    
packets) was 25  pages of questions. He added  that the list                                                                    
of questions  provided by OMB  was two pages  single spaced.                                                                    
There  were a  significant number  of detailed  questions on                                                                    
how to interpret  the federal guidance. Given  the nuance to                                                                    
the  interpretation the  federal government  had given  CRF,                                                                    
OMB  wanted to  ensure it  understood what  was and  was not                                                                    
eligible for  ARPS funding.  He pointed  out that  thus far,                                                                    
the  eligible   categories  were  broad  and   covered  many                                                                    
different ideas and  concepts. He explained that  it was the                                                                    
nuance of  the individual  plans that  the state  started to                                                                    
get  concerned about  how the  Treasury would  interpret the                                                                    
language it had issued related to allowable expenses.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:28:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool looked  at  the items  on  slide 6  and                                                                    
remarked that  [allowable expenses outlined in]  items A, B,                                                                    
and C were  COVID-related whereas item D appeared  to be new                                                                    
investment  in  infrastructure.  He asked  for  verification                                                                    
that a  community could build  a brand new  broadband system                                                                    
with the funds.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied that it  was his  understanding that                                                                    
the  funds   could  be  used  for   new  infrastructure  for                                                                    
broadband. He believed the  federal government saw broadband                                                                    
as COVID-related  because of telework capability  for people                                                                    
in  areas  without broadband  infrastructure.  Additionally,                                                                    
COVID  had   been  somewhat  taxing   on  water   and  sewer                                                                    
infrastructure for hygiene related reasons.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  stated  that  much  of  the  relief  being                                                                    
provided required applying online.  He highlighted that many                                                                    
people in rural areas had problems accessing the funds.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  remarked that  remote school  had poked                                                                    
numerous  holes in  the understanding  of what  defined good                                                                    
internet. He  asked for verification  that as long as  a tax                                                                    
was not changed, the funding could  be used to make up for a                                                                    
lack of tax revenue. He used  bed tax in the Denali National                                                                    
Park and cruise ship head tax as examples.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  answered that  it  was  an area  where  the                                                                    
federal  government had  given a  bit more  guidance because                                                                    
the interpretation  of the change  in tax had  received many                                                                    
questions. It  was OMB's current  understanding that  a loss                                                                    
in  tax revenue  as a  result of  COVID could  be backfilled                                                                    
whereas a  deliberate reduction  to the  bed tax  rate could                                                                    
not be backfilled.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool remarked  that there  was no  statewide                                                                    
sales tax  in Alaska;  however, any  community with  a sales                                                                    
tax would  have a  loss in revenue  because people  were not                                                                    
buying as  much. He stated  his understanding that  any loss                                                                    
of state, municipal, or other tax revenue was fair game.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  agreed.  He   added  that  several  of  the                                                                    
questions  OMB had  asked the  federal Treasury  was how  to                                                                    
calculate the  loss in  tax revenue.  He explained  that the                                                                    
phrasing in  the bill talked about  a drop from a  base year                                                                    
of  FY  19;  therefore,  OMB  believed  it  was  merely  the                                                                    
difference in the tax revenue  between FY 19 and the current                                                                    
fiscal  year. He  noted it  was not  clear how  it would  be                                                                    
interpreted.  He  advised  communities  to  wait  until  the                                                                    
calculation   guidance  was   received  before   deciding  a                                                                    
specific amount was allowable.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster   remarked  that  internet   was  important                                                                    
throughout the  state when it  came to distant  learning and                                                                    
education,  particularly in  rural areas  where speeds  were                                                                    
incredibly slow or nonexistent and costs were exorbitant.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:32:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz referenced  item  B on  slide 6  outlining                                                                    
funds  could   be  used  to   cover  expenses   for  workers                                                                    
performing  essential  work  during COVID-19.  He  asked  if                                                                    
there  was  a  clear definition  identifying  who  essential                                                                    
workers were.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied that OMB  had included  the question                                                                    
in its list to the Treasury.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked how the distribution  of funds would                                                                    
take  place based  on the  current  definition of  essential                                                                    
workers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger  noted   that  the   topic  would   require                                                                    
refinement  when more  information was  received. He  stated                                                                    
that his basic  understanding was that it would  be based on                                                                    
an  hourly rate  of up  to $13  per hour  in premium  pay to                                                                    
essential workers up to $25,000  per worker. He did not want                                                                    
to speculate  on how  the mechanisms  worked, how  the funds                                                                    
would be distributed, or on who would qualify.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Ortiz  surmised   it   would   allow  for   the                                                                    
distribution  to go  to private  businesses. He  highlighted                                                                    
there was  no stipulation about government  workers only. He                                                                    
asked there would be a direct distribution to businesses.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:34:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  responded that  he did  not see  the funding                                                                    
being limited  to state or  government employees.  He stated                                                                    
his  understanding that  the funding  would be  open to  all                                                                    
essential workers.  He did not  know whether funds  would be                                                                    
distributed  through employers  or directly  to workers.  He                                                                    
could speculate on  which option would be  easier to manage,                                                                    
yet he did not know what the Treasury would decide.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter stated  his understanding that item                                                                    
B [on slide  6] pertained only to eligible  workers who were                                                                    
employed   during  the   COVID   pandemic.   He  asked   for                                                                    
verification  that  a  premium  pay  would  be  added  to  a                                                                    
worker's regular  paycheck; however, the funds  would not go                                                                    
to workers who were not  deemed essential and therefore were                                                                    
not working during the pandemic.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger replied  that it  was  his understanding  of                                                                    
item  B;  however, OMB  believed  individuals  who had  lost                                                                    
their jobs  would qualify for  funding under item  A related                                                                    
to negative economic impacts  to businesses, households, and                                                                    
so on.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon stated  that  during the  subcommittee                                                                    
process  for  the Department  of  Public  Safety (DPS),  the                                                                    
subcommittee had looked at trooper  overtime or premium pay.                                                                    
He believed everyone would agree  that Alaska State Troopers                                                                    
would  be defined  as  essential workers.  He  asked if  the                                                                    
payment of overtime  or premium pay to  the troopers through                                                                    
DPS would allow for backfilling  part of the expense through                                                                    
ARPA.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger agreed  that troopers  would fall  under the                                                                    
essential  worker  category  as   they  had  under  the  CRF                                                                    
funding.  He  stated it  would  make  troopers eligible  for                                                                    
premium pay under the eligibility  criteria [listed on slide                                                                    
6].  He believed  March  3,  2021, was  the  start date  for                                                                    
eligible expenses  for ARPA funds,  meaning it would  not be                                                                    
possible to  look back very  far in  terms of money  paid to                                                                    
troopers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  suspected  it  would  be  an  ongoing                                                                    
challenge  for the  department. He  shared that  he and  Co-                                                                    
Chair Merrick had  looked at the trooper's  budget and their                                                                    
ability  to  fill  vacant  positions  and  avoid  a  lot  of                                                                    
overtime  was the  challenge. He  suspected it  would be  an                                                                    
ongoing challenge.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:38:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  referenced a document titled  "Attachment 3"                                                                    
showing  state  and  local  allocation  estimates  (copy  on                                                                    
file). He  explained that the attachment  provided detail on                                                                    
ARPA funding  that would go  to communities. The  first page                                                                    
broke out  the amount coming  to the  state in terms  of the                                                                    
$1.019 billion.  He stated that  information under  a yellow                                                                    
header provided the amount of  money coming to the different                                                                    
communities. He  noted that the community  distributions had                                                                    
been  set by  the  federal government,  which was  different                                                                    
from CRF  funding where the  state had set  the distribution                                                                    
to communities.  He explained that if  someone observed some                                                                    
communities receiving  a markedly different amount  of money                                                                    
it was  due to  the allocation formula  used by  the federal                                                                    
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  stated that  the committee  had heard                                                                    
from the Alaska Municipal  League (AML) director that tribes                                                                    
would receive $1.7  million per tribal entity  in Alaska. He                                                                    
remarked there  were almost 300  tribes in Alaska.  He asked                                                                    
why tribes  were not included  in the analysis.  He believed                                                                    
items  A through  C  on  slide 6  did  not  refer to  tribal                                                                    
entities in Alaska.  He asked why there was  not a breakdown                                                                    
of tribal entities along with  communities. He stressed that                                                                    
the  amount  of money  coming  into  Alaska for  tribes  was                                                                    
significant.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger answered that the  tribal money coming in was                                                                    
included  in  Attachment 1.  He  explained  that the  tribal                                                                    
funding  did  not  flow  through  state  government  or  the                                                                    
appropriation process  through the legislature.  The funding                                                                    
was not  included in Attachment  3 because the  tribal grant                                                                    
was  separate   from  the  state   and  local   relief  fund                                                                    
allocation represented in the  attachment. He clarified that                                                                    
the  distribution was  separate grant  included in  ARPA. He                                                                    
detailed  that  Attachment  3 showed  the  state  and  local                                                                    
relief fund for  state and local governments  and not tribal                                                                    
entities.  He relayed  that OMB  did not  yet have  an exact                                                                    
list of the distribution going to tribal entities.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:41:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  noted that AML had  said $1.7 million                                                                    
would be coming to each tribal  entity. He believed it was a                                                                    
significant  amount   of  money  that  should   be  included                                                                    
somewhere  in   future  presentations   in  order   for  the                                                                    
committee to  understand interfacing  that would  take place                                                                    
between   money   going   to   communities,   infrastructure                                                                    
projects, and  a broad array  of uses extended to  2024 with                                                                    
more  allowable uses  than  under the  CARES  Act. He  hoped                                                                    
there would be  opportunity of synergy for the  monies to be                                                                    
working together for the state's greater good.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Harbour  answered that  Attachment  1  included a  $600                                                                    
million placeholder  for the Coronavirus Relief  Fund tribal                                                                    
set-aside. She  detailed that OMB  knew there would  be $398                                                                    
million coming, which would be  divided among tribes at $1.7                                                                    
million  per   tribe.  She  elaborated  that   OMB  did  not                                                                    
currently  know  how the  remaining  $200  million would  be                                                                    
distributed (e.g.,  based on population or  fiscal impacts).                                                                    
She explained  that OMB was  waiting for the  information to                                                                    
be released  from Treasury. She clarified  that the document                                                                    
provided to  the committee  with more  details on  the state                                                                    
and  local fund  was  from the  U.S.  Senate estimates.  She                                                                    
noted that OMB did not  yet have similar information related                                                                    
to tribal governments.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster asked  if the  placeholder [for  the tribal                                                                    
set-aside] was located on page 2 [of Attachment 1].                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Harbour replied  affirmatively. She  detailed that  the                                                                    
tribal  set-aside was  located on  page 2,  row 2  under the                                                                    
American Rescue Plan Act header.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz   looked  at  Attachment  3   showing  the                                                                    
distributions to state governments, metro cities, and non-                                                                      
counties.  He asked  if  the word  "counties"  was a  direct                                                                    
substitute for boroughs in Alaska.  He asked if non-counties                                                                    
would be unincorporated areas in  Alaska [he received a non-                                                                    
verbal affirmative from the testifiers].  He asked if tribes                                                                    
would  receive any  of the  $43 million  set aside  for non-                                                                    
county  areas.  He  assumed  many  tribes  were  located  in                                                                    
unincorporated  areas or  areas.  He asked  if tribes  would                                                                    
receive additional money.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger answered  that there was a  list by community                                                                    
that would  go to the  community government, similar  to the                                                                    
distribution the state made from CRF to communities.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz stated  the distinction  would  be that  a                                                                    
tribal entity  within a community  would receive  some funds                                                                    
and  the government  within a  tribal  entity would  receive                                                                    
funds as well.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:44:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  referenced the CARES Act  allocation to                                                                    
Native  corporations, which  he  believed was  going to  the                                                                    
U.S. Supreme Court. He asked  if the allocation was included                                                                    
in the documents.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour replied that the  approximately $500 million was                                                                    
not currently  included in the  numbers because OMB  did not                                                                    
yet know if the money would be received.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  asked   for  verification  the  number                                                                    
stated by Ms. Harbour was $500 million.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour responded affirmatively.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon asked  for a high level  summary of the                                                                    
federal distribution formula for the [ARPA] funding.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour  replied that the distribution  was primarily on                                                                    
a  per capita  basis. She  added  that the  way the  federal                                                                    
government had defined the units  of government was a little                                                                    
odd.  For  example,  the  Haines Borough  did  not  have  an                                                                    
incorporated city; therefore, it was treated differently.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  asked if the tribal  set-aside shown                                                                    
on page  2 of Attachment  1 would  go directly to  tribes or                                                                    
pass through the state.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  answered that the funding  would go straight                                                                    
to tribes and would not pass through the state.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter asked whether  the funding going to                                                                    
tribes   had   a   similar  list   of   specifications   and                                                                    
restrictions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour confirmed that  the federal legislation included                                                                    
restrictions  and  spending  specifications  for  the  funds                                                                    
going to tribes.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter requested  a  summary  at a  later                                                                    
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour agreed to provide the information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   relayed  that  the  next   several  slides                                                                    
provided detail on  direct grants that were not  part of the                                                                    
larger $1 billion community fiscal response fund.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour  remarked that  they were  hoping to  go through                                                                    
the  information fairly  quickly.  She suggested  that if  a                                                                    
deeper dive  was desired it  could be helpful to  invite the                                                                    
agencies administering  the programs to answer  the in-depth                                                                    
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  looked at slide  7 and asked  for the                                                                    
difference between  an RPL and an  appropriation. He pointed                                                                    
to language  on the slide  specifying that ARPA  required an                                                                    
additional  appropriation.  He  asked  if  an  appropriation                                                                    
meant   the  legislature   needed  to   be  in   session  to                                                                    
appropriate.  Alternatively, he  wondered  if  it meant  the                                                                    
Legislative   Budget  and   Audit  Committee   (LB&A)  could                                                                    
appropriate through the RPL process.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:48:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   responded  that  the  language   meant  an                                                                    
appropriation  was required  to  receive  federal funds.  He                                                                    
stated that  the RPL process  was part of  the appropriation                                                                    
process and  was an  available avenue;  however, it  was the                                                                    
administration's  intention  to  put  forward  appropriation                                                                    
requests  to cover  any of  the  funds requiring  additional                                                                    
appropriation as part of the  budget process. He stated that                                                                    
OMB recognized the timing of  receiving the federal guidance                                                                    
and  putting forward  an appropriations  request was  tight,                                                                    
but  it was  the administration's  intention to  put forward                                                                    
appropriation requests for  consideration by the legislature                                                                    
because appropriation was required to expend the funds.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon stated  that  the federal  guidelines                                                                    
would  be  released on  May  10  and the  legislature  would                                                                    
adjourn on May  19. He asked if the work  could be completed                                                                    
in nine days.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger answered that OMB  was working to be prepared                                                                    
to release  amendments as soon  as possible  after receiving                                                                    
the [federal]  guidance. He informed members  that OMB would                                                                    
not wait  until the  additional guidance  arrived to  do the                                                                    
technical work required to  submit appropriation requests to                                                                    
the legislature  because of the tight  turnaround. He agreed                                                                    
that a  nine-day turnaround  was difficult  and challenging;                                                                    
however, the timeline was a  product of the federal Treasury                                                                    
and not OMB.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon surmised that  the committee could not                                                                    
expect amendments  prior to the  10th to some degree  as OMB                                                                    
anticipated what  the guidelines would be.  He remarked that                                                                    
the  timeline  would  require swift  action,  otherwise  the                                                                    
legislature would have to extend  session or go into special                                                                    
session. He  wanted to have  some clarity to  the discussion                                                                    
and recognized  there was a  limited amount of  clarity from                                                                    
the agency and the legislature as the appropriating body.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:51:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour added that guidance  would be received on May 10                                                                    
date for  the $1  billion in state  and local  fiscal relief                                                                    
funds. She clarified there were  different timeframes on the                                                                    
guidance for the  rest of the programs.  She highlighted the                                                                    
emergency  rental  assistance program  receiving  additional                                                                    
funding  via  ARPA  would  have the  same  criteria  as  the                                                                    
emergency rental  funding received under  CRRSAA; therefore,                                                                    
OMB was not waiting  for additional guidance. She elaborated                                                                    
that  OMB had  submitted budget  amendments for  the housing                                                                    
relief funding  on April  1. She explained  that as  soon as                                                                    
OMB  received  guidance on  a  program  it was  working  and                                                                    
submitting amendments for the legislature's consideration.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  stated his understanding  that the                                                                    
administration was  already appropriating  some of  the ARPA                                                                    
money  because emergency  rental assistance  was a  knowable                                                                    
category of  spending that guidance could  not significantly                                                                    
alter.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Harbour agreed.  She made  another  comment on  housing                                                                    
relief  on slide  7. She  referenced  the emergency  housing                                                                    
choice vouchers and  explained that the amount  would not be                                                                    
known likely  until the  end of May.  She detailed  that OMB                                                                    
had  submitted  an  amendment  as   a  placeholder  for  the                                                                    
funding.  She stated  it  pointed to  a need  for  a bit  of                                                                    
flexibility in  appropriations that  were made.  She relayed                                                                    
that OMB  had put in  $2 million  as a placeholder,  but the                                                                    
exact amount would not be known until late in the session.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson   looked   at  Attachment   1   and                                                                    
referenced  the  $600  million  tribal  set-aside  and  $100                                                                    
million for the childcare development  fund to tribes.   She                                                                    
thought there was  $3.2 million for tribal  childcare in the                                                                    
DHSS  subcommittee   budget.  She  asked  if   the  existing                                                                    
increment in the budget would be  needed in light of the new                                                                    
money coming in.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred the question  on how the two funding                                                                    
increments were  related to DHSS.  He had not looked  at the                                                                    
connection between the two increments.  He stated the amount                                                                    
that came out  of the subcommittee was not a  request by the                                                                    
department or administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour  continued to address housing  relief details on                                                                    
slide 7. She  reported that some of the  funding for housing                                                                    
relief had  already been received  and appropriated  via the                                                                    
RPL  process  for  the Alaska  Housing  Finance  Corporation                                                                    
(AHFC). She shared that after  the process, the Municipality                                                                    
of Anchorage  and tribal governments had  approached AHFC to                                                                    
administer their  funding as well.  She explained  that AHFC                                                                    
needed program  receipt authority to receive  and expend the                                                                    
funding  on behalf  of the  entities. Consequently,  OMB had                                                                    
submitted  a budget  amendment to  give AHFC  the authority.                                                                    
Additionally,   ARPA  had   a  number   of  housing   relief                                                                    
appropriations  for  emergency rental  assistance,  mortgage                                                                    
assistance,  the Home  Investment Partnership  Act, homeless                                                                    
funds,  and emergency  housing  choice  vouchers. She  noted                                                                    
that OMB had submitted a budget amendment for the funding.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:55:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster believed  the  Alaska Community  Foundation                                                                    
(ACF)  was  administering some  of  the  funds as  well.  He                                                                    
shared that he had recently  spoken with the foundation, and                                                                    
it was interested in administering some of the ARPA funds.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  answered that ACF helped  administer the $50                                                                    
million nonprofit  grant program  that was  part of  the CRF                                                                    
distribution.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked if it had gone smoothly.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied that he believed so.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour  discussed higher  education relief  funding for                                                                    
the  University   of  Alaska   and  the   Alaska  Vocational                                                                    
Technical Center  (AVTEC) on slide  8. She relayed  that the                                                                    
presentation  primarily focused  on funding  going to  state                                                                    
agencies and  through the state budget;  however, there were                                                                    
appropriations   in  the   federal  legislation   that  went                                                                    
directly to  other higher education institutions.  She noted                                                                    
the  information was  included in  Attachment 1.  She listed                                                                    
the  entities:   Alaska  Bible  College,   Alaska  Christian                                                                    
College, Alaska  Pacific University, Ilisagvik  College, and                                                                    
Alaska Career College.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Harbour  clarified  that  slide  8  only  pertained  to                                                                    
funding that  went through the  budget. She stated  that the                                                                    
CARES Act funding had already  been appropriated through the                                                                    
RPL process.  She relayed that  CRRSAA and ARPA  funding for                                                                    
higher  education  required  additional  appropriation.  She                                                                    
highlighted that  the administration had the  CRRSAA funding                                                                    
amount to the university and  AVTEC, but the ARPA allocation                                                                    
was  not yet  known. She  shared a  rough total  estimate of                                                                    
$33.5 million that would come  to Alaska. She clarified that                                                                    
how  the funding  would be  distributed  to the  university,                                                                    
AVTEC, and the  other non-state entities was  not yet known.                                                                    
She added that 50 percent of  the $33.5 million had to go to                                                                    
students. She explained that  the institutions would receive                                                                    
the funding and pass it to students as grants.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:57:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  stated his  understanding that  OMB did                                                                    
not know  how much of  the $33.5 million would  be allocated                                                                    
to  individual universities.  He  remarked  that 50  percent                                                                    
would go to  students. He remarked that the CARES  Act had a                                                                    
percentage for  students that he  believed was less  than 50                                                                    
percent.  He noted  that the  semester  had been  disrupted,                                                                    
classes were canceled,  and many students had  gone home. He                                                                    
understood the reimbursement to  students. He wondered about                                                                    
the logic  for giving  half of the  funds to  students going                                                                    
forward. He  stated that the  institutions were  impacted by                                                                    
lower enrollment and further incurred  costs. He wondered if                                                                    
the  funding for  students was  to pay  tuition because  the                                                                    
pandemic was making employment more difficult.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour answered  that the distribution had  been set by                                                                    
the federal  government. She did  not know the  logic behind                                                                    
the 50 percent to students.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  addressed  K-12  education  relief  running                                                                    
through  the  state budget  (slide  9).  The CARES  Act  had                                                                    
contained  $45 million,  CRRSAA had  $168 million,  and ARPA                                                                    
contained $364.5  million. He noted  the ARPA  funding would                                                                    
require additional  appropriation. The  bulk of  the funding                                                                    
would  go directly  as grants  to  school districts  through                                                                    
formulas  defined by  the federal  government.  There was  a                                                                    
state maintenance  of effort  requirement and  a maintenance                                                                    
of equity  requirement for  the funding.  He noted  that the                                                                    
maintenance  of  equity  requirement  was new  to  the  ARPA                                                                    
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  highlighted that  the maintenance  of effort                                                                    
requirement applied to  the CARES Act had  changed in CRRSAA                                                                    
and ARPA. He  reported that OMB had reached out  to the U.S.                                                                    
Department  of Education  for more  information  on how  the                                                                    
requirement should  be calculated and applied  to the state.                                                                    
The response had  been to hold until  the federal government                                                                    
was  able  to  make  the  determinations  and  provide  more                                                                    
guidance.  He explained  that the  state  had received  very                                                                    
little guidance  on how the  maintenance of effort  would be                                                                    
applied to  the state. The  state had made  some assumptions                                                                    
but  had  not  yet  received  answers  because  the  federal                                                                    
government   did  not   yet   have   the  information.   The                                                                    
maintenance  of  equity  was  new at  the  state  level.  He                                                                    
remarked  that OMB  did  not see  the  requirement having  a                                                                    
significant impact  at the state  level allocations  the way                                                                    
the K-12 foundation formula  was distributed; however, there                                                                    
may be some  greater impacts to some districts  at the local                                                                    
level.  He  noted  it  was   another  area  without  perfect                                                                    
clarity.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:01:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool observed that  the maintenance of effort                                                                    
appeared  to apply  to  CRRSAA  and ARPA.  He  asked if  the                                                                    
requirement  only  applied  to  funding  going  through  the                                                                    
state. He wondered if the  maintenance of effort requirement                                                                    
did not apply  to funds going directly to  the university or                                                                    
school  districts. He  asked what  percentage of  the monies                                                                    
went  through  the state  versus  directly  to entities.  He                                                                    
thought most  of the  funding appeared  to be  directly from                                                                    
the federal government.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  answered  that the  maintenance  of  effort                                                                    
requirement applied  only to the  funding shown on  slide 9.                                                                    
He explained  that maintenance  of effort  questions applied                                                                    
primarily to CRRSAA and ARPA. He  did not know what the $168                                                                    
million  and $364  million represented  as  a percentage  of                                                                    
total  funding to  districts, but  the  money districts  may                                                                    
receive via impact  aid was not impacted  by the maintenance                                                                    
of effort requirement.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool   had  heard   that  K-12   and  higher                                                                    
education   were  bundled   together   to   make  sure   the                                                                    
maintenance  of   effort  was   met.  He  believed   only  a                                                                    
percentage  of  the funds  would  be  received if  K-12  and                                                                    
higher education were not combined.  He understood there was                                                                    
a  lookback for  several  years. He  asked  if the  lookback                                                                    
extended back pre-COVID.  He asked for detail.  He had heard                                                                    
more money needed to be  added to the university (because it                                                                    
had been cut  below a certain level) just to  enable K-12 to                                                                    
have access to substantial federal funding.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  replied that  the  CRRSAA  and ARPA  direct                                                                    
funding  to the  university  reflected on  slide  8 was  not                                                                    
subject  to  the  maintenance   of  effort  requirement.  He                                                                    
clarified that  the requirement only applied  to the funding                                                                    
that   went  to   K-12   school   districts.  However,   the                                                                    
maintenance of effort applied to  the state's funding to the                                                                    
university and K-12.  He clarified that the look  was at the                                                                    
overall  state spending  on education  (including K-12,  the                                                                    
university,  AVTEC, and  other educational  institutions the                                                                    
state spent money on) and  applied the maintenance effort as                                                                    
a requirement to receive the funds.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   stated  it   was  unclear  how   the  U.S.                                                                    
Department of  Education would address  some Alaska-specific                                                                    
nuances to  the state's funding  of education. He  noted the                                                                    
nuances  impacting   other  states  was  also   unclear.  He                                                                    
highlighted that there were  natural population changes that                                                                    
occurred, and  Alaska had seen outmigration,  which could be                                                                    
seen in the  formula and impacted the amount  of money going                                                                    
to  education. He  shared  that OMB  had  asked the  federal                                                                    
government whether  Alaska would be penalized  for a natural                                                                    
decline  in the  number of  students. Additionally,  OMB had                                                                    
asked whether  the state would  be penalized  for agreements                                                                    
like  the  university  compact that  existed  prior  to  the                                                                    
pandemic. The  state had not received  definitive answers to                                                                    
those types of questions. He  explained that the basic rules                                                                    
included a three-year average from  prior to the pandemic of                                                                    
the  amount  of funding  given  to  education by  the  state                                                                    
compared  to  the same  three-year  average  of total  state                                                                    
spending. The  average was compared  to the base-year  of FY                                                                    
21 or  FY 22. He reported  that how the base  was calculated                                                                    
and what the federal government  defined as state support of                                                                    
education was still unclear.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:06:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon discussed  maintenance of  effort. He                                                                    
recalled  a prior  presentation by  OMB and  a handout  that                                                                    
talked about having to meet  certain K-12 funding levels for                                                                    
FY 17, FY  18, and FY 19. He viewed  the funding as matching                                                                    
funds. He elaborated  that the state had to  provide a given                                                                    
amount of matching  funding to receive the  $365 million. He                                                                    
understood  it was  more involved  than that.  He considered                                                                    
that the state did not have  the full picture. He asked what                                                                    
the worst case  scenario would be if OMB did  not receive an                                                                    
answer back  from the U.S Department  of Education regarding                                                                    
the maintenance of  effort that the state  needed to provide                                                                    
to get to the $364.5 million.  He asked if the state may not                                                                    
be  eligible  to  receive  the  funding.  Alternatively,  he                                                                    
wondered if the state would only  get part of the funding if                                                                    
it  did  not come  up  with  the  maintenance of  effort  or                                                                    
matching portion from the state.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   replied  that  OMB  had   asked  the  U.S.                                                                    
Department of  Education what the  repercussion was  for not                                                                    
meeting the maintenance of effort.  He shared that one thing                                                                    
the state  had experienced  with all  three pots  of federal                                                                    
money coming in for school  districts was that the money had                                                                    
been sent  to the state to  allow districts to draw  down on                                                                    
the funds  prior to  giving guidance  on the  maintenance of                                                                    
effort. The federal government  had not provided information                                                                    
on  the  actual  repercussions  of  missing  maintenance  of                                                                    
effort.  He  did  not  want to  speculate  on  the  possible                                                                    
repercussions given  that the  U.S. Department  of Education                                                                    
was unable to provide the answer.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:08:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  asked  for verification  that  funds                                                                    
were flowing  through school districts  even though  slide 9                                                                    
specified an additional appropriation was required.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger responded  that the  money flowed  to school                                                                    
districts through  the state.  In a  normal year,  the state                                                                    
Department  of Education  and Early  Development (DEED)  had                                                                    
over $100 million in appropriations  of federal receipts for                                                                    
normal federal programs. He explained  that the $364 million                                                                    
would  need  to be  an  increase  to the  appropriation.  He                                                                    
shared  that  OMB  would   be  submitting  an  appropriation                                                                    
request for the  change. He added that OMB  had been waiting                                                                    
on the  additional information from  the U.S.  Department of                                                                    
Education  prior  to  submitting the  appropriation  request                                                                    
because  the  agency  believed  it  was  important  for  the                                                                    
legislature to  know the maintenance of  effort requirements                                                                    
in order to make an informed decision.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  referenced  OMB's questions  to  the                                                                    
federal  government  regarding  maintenance  of  effort.  He                                                                    
asked   if   it   was    all   operating   budget   related.                                                                    
Alternatively, he  asked if  school bond  debt reimbursement                                                                    
could be considered maintenance  of effort. He clarified his                                                                    
question  and asked  if OMB  knew whether  the state  had to                                                                    
provide  a given  amount for  the K-12  education foundation                                                                    
formula to meet  the maintenance of effort  or whether other                                                                    
funds could be involved.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:10:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger replied  that there  was some  understanding                                                                    
that capital  expenditures in  education were  not allowable                                                                    
for part  of the  state's funding  to education.  He assumed                                                                    
school bond  debt reimbursement would  qualify as  a capital                                                                    
expenditure given  what the money  was originally  spent on.                                                                    
He stated that whether  school bond debt reimbursement would                                                                    
be part of the maintenance  of effort requirement was in the                                                                    
gray  area.  He  believed  there   were  one  or  two  other                                                                    
restrictions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Harbour  expounded   that  the   federal  restrictions                                                                    
specified that  state funding shall not  include support for                                                                    
capital projects, research and  development, or tuition fees                                                                    
paid by students.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  considered  that  the  maintenance  of                                                                    
effort  requirement also  applied to  CRRSAA funding,  which                                                                    
had been dispersed. He thought  it sounded like there was no                                                                    
retroactivity and  the federal government could  not say the                                                                    
state did  not maintain maintenance  of effort. He  asked if                                                                    
the state was in the clear with CRRSAA funds spent.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Harbour answered  that  OMB did  not  know whether  the                                                                    
state would have  to pay back the $168 million  if it missed                                                                    
maintenance of effort on the CRRSAA funding.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  looked at  the yellow  sections in                                                                    
Attachment 1 indicating  that additional appropriations were                                                                    
required. He asked if the  required appropriations were only                                                                    
a  request for  additional  federal receipt  authority or  a                                                                    
more detailed appropriation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger answered  that many of the  grants would only                                                                    
require a request for additional  receipt authority. For the                                                                    
larger $1 billion  state and community relief  fund, the use                                                                    
of  the funds  would  require  more specific  appropriations                                                                    
because  it   was  not  a   passthrough  grant   with  tight                                                                    
restrictions from the federal government.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  referenced Representative Edgmon's                                                                    
earlier  questions   related  to  the  timing   the  federal                                                                    
guidance  would be  received  near the  end  of session.  He                                                                    
stated it would be helpful  to understand which of the items                                                                    
highlighted in yellow would be  a receipt authority solution                                                                    
and which  would require  more detailed  legislative action.                                                                    
He  explained  it would  enable  the  legislature to  better                                                                    
manage its time and understand the scope of time required.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:13:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson discussed  the university  and the                                                                    
compact [agreed  upon by the  governor and  the university].                                                                    
He believed the  state provided a grant of  $327 million the                                                                    
year  before  the  compact began.  He  elaborated  that  the                                                                    
funding had  been decreased  to around  $302 million  in the                                                                    
first  year of  the  compact, which  was  before anyone  had                                                                    
heard  of COVID-19.  The pandemic  had begun  in the  second                                                                    
year of  the compact when  funding had been reduced  to $277                                                                    
million.  He asked  if the  federal Department  of Education                                                                    
could   say  that   the  reduction   violated  the   state's                                                                    
maintenance of effort requirements.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger agreed that it  was a question. He elaborated                                                                    
that  OMB  had  asked  the question  directly  to  the  U.S.                                                                    
Department  of   Education  and  had  not   yet  received  a                                                                    
response. He  informed members there  was an  opportunity to                                                                    
request a waiver to the  maintenance of effort requirements,                                                                    
which the state  planned to do. He noted that  what would be                                                                    
considered for  a waiver had  not yet  been laid out  by the                                                                    
federal  government. He  shared that  OMB had  discussed the                                                                    
compact   with  the   federal   agency   and  had   provided                                                                    
information about  its existence  prior to the  pandemic and                                                                    
how  the  state  utilized  federal   relief  to  assist  the                                                                    
university  with  lost revenues  and  other  impacts due  to                                                                    
COVID. He added that  discretionary federal relief could not                                                                    
be applied to the maintenance  of effort. He stated that the                                                                    
compact with  the university  would be  part of  the state's                                                                    
waiver  request  to  the U.S.  Department  of  Education  to                                                                    
explain it had  existed prior to the pandemic and  was not a                                                                    
reduction in  state support for  education as a  response to                                                                    
the pandemic.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:16:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harbour  clarified that  the traditional  maintenance of                                                                    
effort requirement  under the CARES Act  was dollar focused.                                                                    
She explained  that if $100  million was paid,  $100 million                                                                    
had to  be paid within  the year. She elaborated  that under                                                                    
CRRSAA and  ARPA the requirement  specified that if  a state                                                                    
spent 30 percent  of its state funding  on higher education,                                                                    
it was  required to  spend 30 percent  of state  spending on                                                                    
higher education  in FY 22  and FY 23. She  underscored that                                                                    
the amount would  not be $27 million or $40  million, but 30                                                                    
percent of the  overall state funded budget.  She noted that                                                                    
the amount could swing significantly  depending on how state                                                                    
funds were invested.  She explained that a  number of states                                                                    
were having  problems with the requirement  because they put                                                                    
substantial  funding into  community  relief  or health  and                                                                    
social services,  which skewed the percentage.  She stressed                                                                    
that  it was  not  possible to  say the  state  had cut  the                                                                    
university by $27  million. She elucidated that  the size of                                                                    
the hole depended on the size  of the total budget for FY 22                                                                    
and FY 23.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson stated  that while  he appreciated                                                                    
that the administration  may seek a waiver, he  and a number                                                                    
of  others did  not want  the  waiver because  they did  not                                                                    
believe in  the compact. Some  solace had been taken  in the                                                                    
compact, but it  was not what a number of  people had wanted                                                                    
because it had circumvented the legislature's role.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  remarked  that  the  Permanent  Fund                                                                    
Dividend  (PFD) was  part of  the  appropriation process  as                                                                    
well,  which was  an additional  thing to  think about  when                                                                    
considering  the  demands  of   CRRSAA  and  ARPA  regarding                                                                    
maintenance of effort.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  asked for verification that  the three-                                                                    
year lookback  for maintenance of effort  preceded COVID. He                                                                    
surmised it meant  the federal government wanted  to look at                                                                    
what  the   state  had  been   funding  historically   as  a                                                                    
percentage of  the total budget  to make sure the  state was                                                                    
maintaining the same percentage.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  agreed  that  the  federal  government  was                                                                    
looking  at a  period of  time prior  to the  pandemic as  a                                                                    
baseline to set the percentage going to education.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  stated the  compact had been  agreed to                                                                    
because the  university had been  looking at a  $135 million                                                                    
cut or around  45 percent in one year. He  remarked that the                                                                    
proposed cut  had made national  news because  although many                                                                    
state universities across the  country were facing cuts, the                                                                    
cut was the largest any  state university had ever faced. He                                                                    
stated  it was  ironic that  if  the cut  had been  accepted                                                                    
there would  have been  no further  cuts and  the three-year                                                                    
lookback may actually  look better. He was  glad the compact                                                                    
had  been  chosen over  the  larger  cut.  He did  not  know                                                                    
whether  one of  the  three years  within  the lookback  was                                                                    
prior  to the  compact, but  he noted  the compact  showed a                                                                    
radical reduction. He remarked  that other states had likely                                                                    
cut overall state spending as well.  He asked if the PFD was                                                                    
included as  part of  the total budget.  He reasoned  that a                                                                    
larger PFD would  put everything else at  a lower percentage                                                                    
relative to  the overall state  budget. He asked if  the PFD                                                                    
was part of OMB's calculation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:20:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  answered  that   OMB  had  asked  the  U.S.                                                                    
Department of Education whether  the PFD would be considered                                                                    
part of the  calculation. Based on calculations  done by OMB                                                                    
the inclusion of the $680  million appropriation for the PFD                                                                    
did not significantly  change the numbers in  terms of using                                                                    
current appropriations in FY 21 as a comparison year.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger moved  to slide  10 and  reviewed additional                                                                    
ARPA  education relief  details.  He stated  there was  some                                                                    
guidance on  how the  money was  spent. He  highlighted that                                                                    
slightly  over  $500 million  would  go  directly to  school                                                                    
districts.  The   slide  provided  information   on  federal                                                                    
direction on  how the state  could allocate the  funding. He                                                                    
pointed out  that at least  90 percent of the  funding would                                                                    
go directly to school  districts or local education agencies                                                                    
as  referred  to in  the  federal  legislation. The  federal                                                                    
government  had  identified  that allocations  would  go  to                                                                    
address   learning   loss,   summer   enrichment   programs,                                                                    
afterschool   programs,   other    state   activities,   and                                                                    
administration.  He noted  the funding  for the  first three                                                                    
aforementioned  items were  to  receive at  least a  certain                                                                    
percentage and the amount identified  for the last two items                                                                    
was "at most"  a given percentage. The vast  majority of the                                                                    
funding coming  in through ARPA  would go to  help classroom                                                                    
activities and students throughout the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:22:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  looked  at  slide 11  showing  all  of  the                                                                    
various funds  coming into the Department  of Transportation                                                                    
and Public  Facilities (DOT).  The top  of the  slide showed                                                                    
three  funding  categories  including the  Federal  Aviation                                                                    
Administration  (FAA),  the Federal  Transit  Administration                                                                    
(FTA),  and  the   Federal  Highway  Administration  (FHWA).                                                                    
Included under  each of the categories  was funding received                                                                    
under the CARES Act, CRRSA, and  ARPA. He noted that OMB was                                                                    
not  yet certain  how much  FAA  money was  coming into  the                                                                    
state under ARPA.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger detailed  that each  of  the federal  relief                                                                    
acts  and  federal  entities had  slightly  different  rules                                                                    
surrounding the money. He stated  that tailoring the way the                                                                    
state  utilized  the   transportation  funding  between  the                                                                    
different acts was a complex  process. He highlighted that a                                                                    
moderately  large  sum  of  money from  the  CARES  Act  had                                                                    
previously  been  allocated  through the  RPL  process.  The                                                                    
administration  had  also  suggested appropriations  in  the                                                                    
governor's  budget  to utilize  some  of  the FAA  money  to                                                                    
offset general  fund expenditures  in highways  and aviation                                                                    
within  DOT. He  noted that  within the  $27 million  in FAA                                                                    
funds under CRRSAA approximately  $12 million was identified                                                                    
for specific airports.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  noted it  was a  slight difference  from the                                                                    
CARES  Act  funding,  which  had  been  allocated  based  on                                                                    
airport, but  how the  funds were  spent was  open-ended. He                                                                    
explained there  were varying  levels of  restriction within                                                                    
the DOT  funding, meaning figuring  out which money  went to                                                                    
what activities  was complicated. He informed  the committee                                                                    
there  was   a  large  portion  of   funding  remaining  for                                                                    
distribution that OMB had not  yet put forward appropriation                                                                    
requests, including approximately $120  million in FHWA, $58                                                                    
million in  FTA, and  $38 million in  FAA. He  remarked that                                                                    
the money  could be used  over the course of  several fiscal                                                                    
years, which enabled  an operating budget offset  in the DOT                                                                    
budget  for longer  than  one fiscal  year.  He noted  other                                                                    
restrictions shown near  the bottom of slide 11  in terms of                                                                    
money  that  had to  pass  through  to the  Municipality  of                                                                    
Anchorage  or  had to  be  spent  at specific  airports  for                                                                    
specific airport operations.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:25:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Harbour addressed  ARPA  relief  funding estimates  for                                                                    
various programs  within DHSS (slide  12). She  relayed that                                                                    
OMB did not  know the amounts for each of  the programs. The                                                                    
funding  would  require  an  appropriation  to  receive  and                                                                    
expend.  She detailed  that OMB  was waiting  for additional                                                                    
[federal]  guidance.  She  reported that  DHSS  was  working                                                                    
diligently to  analyze the programs. She  explained that for                                                                    
many of  the grants  like the childcare  development grants,                                                                    
the  funds  were  meant to  supplement  the  current  year's                                                                    
budget. She highlighted it was  not possible to supplant the                                                                    
normal UGF budget with the funds.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster thanked the presenters.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:26:58 AM                                                                                                                   
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10:33:27 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:   AMERICAN   RESCUE   PLAN   ACT   OF   2021:                                                                  
LEGISLATIVE FINANCE DIVISION                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:33:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI  PAINTER,  DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
presentation titled  "American Rescue Plan  (ARP) Provisions                                                                    
for Alaska:  House Finance Committee,"  dated April  8, 2021                                                                    
(copy on file).  He began on slide 2 and  planned to discuss                                                                    
items  not requiring  legislative appropriation,  funds with                                                                    
significant  flexibility,  and  funds  with  limited  or  no                                                                    
flexibility. He  moved to  slide 3  and reviewed  ARPA funds                                                                    
not requiring state appropriation:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • $1,400 Direct Payment to Alaskans  estimated total                                                                     
        of                                                                                                                      
        $847.3 million (600,000 Alaskans)                                                                                       
       Phases out starting at $75,000/$150,000 income for                                                                       
        individual/household                                                                                                    
     • Estimated $1 billion total available for tribal                                                                        
        governments                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  elaborated that the  tribal funding  included a                                                                    
primary  increment of  $600 million  and several  others. He                                                                    
noted that the  state did not know the exact  details on all                                                                    
of the amounts, but the [$1  billion] number had been in the                                                                    
media. He continued to review slide 3:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   • Tax code changes to Child Tax Credit (expanded to                                                                        
        $3,000 per child ages 6-17, $3,600 per child under                                                                      
        6, credit made fully refundable), Earned Income Tax                                                                     
        Credit                                                                                                                  
   • Additional funds for Paycheck Protection Program                                                                         
     • Direct funding to rural health providers                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  noted  that  the Child  Tax  Credit  had  been                                                                    
expanded  from  $2,000  per  child ages  6  through  17.  He                                                                    
described the Paycheck Protection  Program as a loan program                                                                    
for  small businesses.  He  stated there  were  quite a  few                                                                    
areas of  funding that would influence  the amount available                                                                    
in the  economy in  Alaska that  were not  necessarily going                                                                    
through the state budget.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:36:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter moved  to  a  pie chart  on  slide  4 "Over  $2                                                                    
billion   allocated   to   state   of   Alaska   and   Local                                                                    
Governments." He detailed that about  half of the $2 billion                                                                    
was the State Fiscal Recovery  Fund shown in blue, which was                                                                    
more  flexible.  Additionally,  there was  $112  million  in                                                                    
flexible  capital funds  and $230  million for  local fiscal                                                                    
recovery.  The  other  items  in  the  pie  chart  reflected                                                                    
specific  areas with  less  spending  flexibility. He  noted                                                                    
that  the chart  only included  items with  a known  funding                                                                    
estimate. He relayed there were  about $2.1 billion of known                                                                    
amounts that would go through  the State of Alaska or direct                                                                    
to local governments.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:37:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  turned to  slide  5  and discussed  the  State                                                                    
Fiscal Recovery  Fund, estimated at $1,019,259.4  for Alaska                                                                    
to  be  allocated  60  days  from  when  state  submitted  a                                                                    
certification  to Treasury.  There was  flexibility allowing                                                                    
the  secretary of  the Treasury  to withhold  half of  state                                                                    
allocation for 12  months based on the  unemployment rate of                                                                    
each state. He  noted it was unclear what  would trigger the                                                                    
withholding of a  portion of the funding and  whether it was                                                                    
a high or  low unemployment rate was  unclear. He speculated                                                                    
that the funds would likely  not be withheld due to Alaska's                                                                    
relatively high  unemployment rate. He highlighted  that the                                                                    
fund  could be  used on  expenses incurred  through December                                                                    
31, 2024.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter continued to review  slide 5. The slide included                                                                    
language  from the  federal legislation  describing eligible                                                                    
uses of the  funds. He stated that while  Alaska was waiting                                                                    
on  treasury guidance  for  more clarity  on  the items,  he                                                                    
believed  many  of  the basics  were  already  outlined.  He                                                                    
believed the list of eligible  uses could provide some ideas                                                                    
on ways the state may be able  to use the funds. He read the                                                                    
first eligible use as defined in the federal legislation:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Eligible uses of funds include:                                                                                            
     (A)  to respond  to  the public  health emergency  with                                                                    
     respect to  the Coronavirus Disease 2019  (COVID19)  or                                                                    
     its negative economic  impacts, including assistance to                                                                    
     households,  small businesses,  and nonprofits,  or aid                                                                    
     to  impacted industries  such as  tourism, travel,  and                                                                    
     hospitality                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  elaborated  on  the  first  eligible  use  and                                                                    
explained that it  could take the form  of something similar                                                                    
to  the  $290  million  RPL for  the  small  business  grant                                                                    
program in 2020.  He stated that there  was specific funding                                                                    
going to many of the  public health items, but items without                                                                    
a specific  grant could also  be used under the  statute. He                                                                    
noted the  next item pertained  to premium pay  to essential                                                                    
workers:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
       (B)  to respond to workers  performing essential work                                                                    
     during   the  COVID19    public  health   emergency  by                                                                    
     providing  premium  pay  to  eligible  workers  of  the                                                                    
     State,  territory,   or  Tribal  government   that  are                                                                    
     performing such essential work,  or by providing grants                                                                    
     to eligible  employers that  have eligible  workers who                                                                    
     perform essential work;                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter highlighted the third  eligible use included the                                                                    
revenue replacement clause:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
       (C) for  the provision of government  services to the                                                                    
     extent  of  the reduction  in  revenue  of such  State,                                                                    
     territory,  or Tribal  government due  to the  COVID19                                                                     
     public health emergency  relative to revenues collected                                                                    
     in  the most  recent  full fiscal  year  of the  State,                                                                    
     territory,   or   Tribal   government  prior   to   the                                                                    
     emergency; or                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter expounded  that the  language could  pertain to                                                                    
something  like  the state  itself.  He  explained that  the                                                                    
state  had significantly  lower revenue  projected in  FY 22                                                                    
than  received in  FY  19,  much of  which  was  due to  oil                                                                    
prices. In  FY 19, oil  prices had been  a bit over  $69 per                                                                    
barrel  and  were  projected  to  be in  the  low  $60s.  He                                                                    
remarked  that  the  state's  revenue  was  several  hundred                                                                    
million lower. He  stated that the eligible  use could apply                                                                    
to  specific   taxes.  For  example,   the  state   was  not                                                                    
anticipating  any   cruise  ships  in  the   coming  summer;                                                                    
therefore, the state could  supplement the commercial vessel                                                                    
passenger  tax revenue  that went  to local  communities. He                                                                    
remarked that  it would be eligible  for FY 21 as  well when                                                                    
there  had  been no  cruise  ships.  Additionally, it  could                                                                    
likely apply to items like  the vehicle rental tax where the                                                                    
tax had  been down due to  the lack of visitors  in 2020. He                                                                    
reviewed the last eligible use item:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
       (D)  to make necessary  investments in  water, sewer,                                                                    
     or broadband infrastructure.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  highlighted two things  in the  bill identified                                                                    
as ineligible. Funding  could not be used  to offset revenue                                                                    
losses caused  by changes  in state  law or  regulations. He                                                                    
referenced  a   couple  of  instances  in   2020  under  the                                                                    
emergency  disaster  declaration,  where certain  taxes  and                                                                    
fees were  suspended or  delayed. He  noted the  items would                                                                    
not be eligible for revenue  replacement where the state had                                                                    
made  the decision  to reduce  taxes or  fees. Additionally,                                                                    
the federal  funds could not  be deposited into  any pension                                                                    
fund  including  the  Public  Employees'  Retirement  System                                                                    
(PERS) and Teachers' Retirement System (TRS).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:41:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked if  the Paycheck  Protection Program                                                                    
or  the Small  Business Loan  Program had  been turned  into                                                                    
grant programs  in the  past. She asked  if the  new funding                                                                    
would be eligible for the same  purpose. She asked if it was                                                                    
a state or federal decision.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  answered that  the federal  Paycheck Protection                                                                    
Program  was a  loan that  could be  forgiven under  certain                                                                    
circumstances. He believed  a portion or all  of the funding                                                                    
could be  forgiven if it  was used for payroll.  He detailed                                                                    
that the  state program had  originally been discussed  as a                                                                    
loan  program,  but  it  had been  converted  into  a  grant                                                                    
program.  He elaborated  that the  $290 million  had been  a                                                                    
grant program.  He relayed it  was likely a  similar program                                                                    
would  be  eligible  again as  the  [federal]  language  was                                                                    
fairly similar.  He noted that  how it was  determined would                                                                    
be  up to  the legislature  as the  appropriating body.  The                                                                    
legislature could  appropriate funds  with a lot  of strings                                                                    
enabling  only particular  types of  businesses to  qualify.                                                                    
Alternatively,   the  legislature   could  make   the  funds                                                                    
available to any business with lost revenue.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz referenced the  first bullet point on slide                                                                    
5  related to  the $1.019  billion coming  to the  state. He                                                                    
observed  that the  funds would  be allocated  to Alaska  60                                                                    
days after the state  submitted a certification to Treasury.                                                                    
He   asked  if   the   state  had   already  submitted   the                                                                    
certification.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  replied  it was  his  understanding  that  the                                                                    
certification had  not yet been  submitted by the  state. He                                                                    
explained that the state did  not yet know what the language                                                                    
meant.  He noted  that the  state had  received some  of the                                                                    
education  funds but  had not  yet  physically received  the                                                                    
money [from the State Fiscal Recovery Fund].                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz referenced language  on the slide under the                                                                    
first  bullet  point,  which   specified  the  Treasury  may                                                                    
withhold half of the allocation  for 12 months. He asked how                                                                    
and when the  state would know whether it  would receive all                                                                    
of the funding in one or two tranches.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  believed it was  one of the questions  on OMB's                                                                    
list  sent to  the  federal government.  He  noted that  the                                                                    
National  Conference   of  State  Legislatures   (NCSL)  had                                                                    
compiled a  similar list  of questions  sent to  the federal                                                                    
government.  He believed  the answer  to Vice-Chair  Ortiz's                                                                    
question was the state would wait and see.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:43:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Edgmon  asked   about  the   60  days   and                                                                    
certification   process.   He   referred  to   the   federal                                                                    
guidelines that  would be available  on May 10.  He remarked                                                                    
there were  many lessons  learned on  the state  and federal                                                                    
end in 2020. He asked about  Mr. Painter's sense in terms of                                                                    
the ability to craft or  meld the money into the legislative                                                                    
budgetary  process.  He  asked  if  there  would  be  enough                                                                    
information on  May 10 vis-a-vis the  certification process.                                                                    
He  highlighted  that  Alaska  was the  only  state  with  a                                                                    
Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD).                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  replied that he  had a slide  on considerations                                                                    
on timing and  process. He asked to hold  the question until                                                                    
that time.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  asked  who  was  responsible  for                                                                    
submitting a certification to Treasury.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  believed it would  be someone in  the executive                                                                    
branch, whether it be OMB or another entity.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson  asked if  any  of  the ARPA  funds                                                                    
could be  used to supplant the  UGF funds in the  state's FY                                                                    
22 budget.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  confirmed  that   funds  could  be  supplanted                                                                    
through the  revenue replacement  clause to the  extent that                                                                    
the state's FY 22 revenue was  lower than in FY 19. He noted                                                                    
that the federal guidance would  specify how the calculation                                                                    
should  be  made.  He  stated that  with  oil  prices  being                                                                    
several  dollars  down,  it  meant   the  state  would  have                                                                    
hundreds   of  millions   of  dollars   less  tax   revenue;                                                                    
therefore,  it  could  swap  out  hundreds  of  millions  of                                                                    
general  government  expenditures   if  desired.  The  exact                                                                    
number was not known because the  state did not yet have the                                                                    
detail on how  to make the calculation.  He informed members                                                                    
that  in terms  of non-percent  of market  value (POMV)  UGF                                                                    
revenue, the  state was  projected to  be over  $900 million                                                                    
lower in FY 22 than in FY 19.  He stated that FY 19 had been                                                                    
the most  recent peak revenue  year; therefore, if  it could                                                                    
be used as  a peak the state  would have a lot  of room. The                                                                    
state would  not have to go  hunting for things that  may be                                                                    
eligible  if it  could use  the general  revenue replacement                                                                    
clause. He  reiterated that the  state did not yet  have the                                                                    
guidance on how  to make the calculation. He  added that the                                                                    
state  would not  want to  offset something  like education,                                                                    
which would  cause problems with  the maintenance  of effort                                                                    
requirement. He  stated there  may be  areas where  a simple                                                                    
revenue replacement  swap could  be used. Once  the guidance                                                                    
was received, it would be easier  to have a better handle on                                                                    
the situation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:47:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  asked about  revenue loss.  He remarked                                                                    
that the  price of oil was  higher in 2019 than  its current                                                                    
price. He asked if the decline had to be linked to COVID.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter   answered  there  was  nothing   in  the  bill                                                                    
indicating  whether  that would  be  true.  He believed  the                                                                    
guidance  would  provide  clarity.   He  reasoned  that  the                                                                    
state's revenue in  FY 22 was clearly lower  than revenue in                                                                    
FY 19.  He thought  it would require  an economics  Ph.D. to                                                                    
untangle  whether the  oil market  [decline] was  because of                                                                    
COVID.  He was  not sure  the state  would be  held to  that                                                                    
standard of figuring  out what degree the  oil price decline                                                                    
was due to COVID.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  asked  if  there was  a  list  of  who                                                                    
qualified as  essential workers. He highlighted  examples of                                                                    
workers  who he  considered essential  such as  plumbers and                                                                    
grocery  store clerks.  He asked  if essential  workers were                                                                    
considered to be in the health and public safety category.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter replied that he  believed federal guidance would                                                                    
spell  out  the federal  definition.  He  remarked that  the                                                                    
federal definition  may or may  not be similar to  the state                                                                    
definition.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  thought one of the  things they were                                                                    
trying to figure  out was how the  funding would potentially                                                                    
fill the state's fiscal gap  for the coming fiscal year. She                                                                    
asked what  kind of impact  the CARES Act  had on the  FY 21                                                                    
budget.  She remarked  that the  state  had until  FY 24  to                                                                    
spend the ARPA  funds. She stated the big issue  in her mind                                                                    
was how much  the federal funding would help  the state. She                                                                    
highlighted that the fix was temporary.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:50:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter answered  that how much the funds  could be used                                                                    
for revenue  replacement was  largely a  decision up  to the                                                                    
legislature.  He listed  questions  for  the legislature  to                                                                    
consider including  whether lapsing  as much money  into the                                                                    
Constitutional Budget Reserve  (CBR) in FY 21  to reduce the                                                                    
budget in  FY 22 through FY  24 was one of  the goals. Other                                                                    
questions included how much the  legislature wanted to do at                                                                    
present  versus  in  the future  for  various  programs.  He                                                                    
relayed that  $1 billion was  not enough to make  up revenue                                                                    
losses for  a five-year period  of FY  21 through FY  24. He                                                                    
informed members  that the entire  amount could be  spent on                                                                    
revenue replacement if that was the goal.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson observed  that  some planning  could                                                                    
make  the  funding  more effective  moving  forward  as  the                                                                    
legislature addressed existing challenges.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   asked    if   the   legislature                                                                    
appropriated  half of  $1  billion and  put  the other  half                                                                    
billion in  the Statutory Budget Reserve  (SBR). He provided                                                                    
a  hypothetical  situation  where the  governor  vetoed  the                                                                    
funds put  in the SBR. He  asked if the governor  could then                                                                    
submit RPLs for the $500 million to LB&A.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  answered that  it  depended  on what  the  RPL                                                                    
language in the budget said.  He elaborated that the version                                                                    
adopted in HB  205 for FY 21 would likely  apply because the                                                                    
revenue under discussion would have  been received in FY 21.                                                                    
He detailed  that HB 205  specified that the  governor could                                                                    
submit RPLs for new federal  money. He relayed that when the                                                                    
prior  administration wanted  to  pursue Medicaid  expansion                                                                    
and the legislature was not  supportive, the legislature had                                                                    
changed the language in the  budget to specifically state it                                                                    
could not  be used  for Medicaid  expansion. He  remarked it                                                                    
had been a  special case where the legislature  had ended up                                                                    
losing  the  lawsuit. He  clarified  that  the RPL  language                                                                    
appropriated additional federal  receipts received compliant                                                                    
with  the RPL  process  in statute.  He  explained that  the                                                                    
legislature  could limit  the  appropriation  just like  any                                                                    
other. He  stated that the  legislature had not  limited the                                                                    
RPL process  in the current  budget, but it had  the option.                                                                    
He highlighted that the RPL  process was statutory and could                                                                    
be changed.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:53:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  thought  it  was  very  important                                                                    
information.  He believed  Mr. Painter  was saying  that the                                                                    
RPL statute  did not stand  alone and needed  direction from                                                                    
the  budget.  He  surmised  that   the  governor  could  not                                                                    
independently cite the statute and say he would issue RPLs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter replied that it  was his understanding; however,                                                                    
as seen  the previous  year, the governor  had been  able to                                                                    
submit RPLs.  He noted that  Legislative Legal  Services did                                                                    
not think it was allowable  under statute. He continued that                                                                    
the  RPLs could  be  submitted and  approved  by the  [LB&A]                                                                    
committee. He noted someone could  sue if they did not think                                                                    
the action was legal, which  had occurred in 2020. He stated                                                                    
there  was  nothing stopping  the  governor  from doing  so,                                                                    
other than a lawsuit.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster  asked   if  the   language  allowing   or                                                                    
disallowing the RPL process was in the capital budget.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter replied  that the language was  in the operating                                                                    
and capital  budgets. He elaborated  that because  there had                                                                    
been  a  single  omnibus  bill  in 2020  it  had  only  been                                                                    
included  the one  bill. He  relayed that  the language  was                                                                    
included in both bills for FY 22 and was very similar.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   referenced   his   hypothetical                                                                    
example and  thought that if the  $500 million appropriation                                                                    
to the  SBR was vetoed  that the  funds would remain  in the                                                                    
General Fund. He  surmised that would not  be much different                                                                    
than if the funds were in the SBR.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter did not know  whether appropriating the funds to                                                                    
the SBR  would be allowable  because it was a  state savings                                                                    
account. He  highlighted that  the state  had four  years to                                                                    
spend  the  funds  and  he   did  not  believe  the  federal                                                                    
government expected the state to  get all of the funding out                                                                    
the door in year one.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  moved  to slide  6  titled  "Capital  Projects                                                                    
Fund." He reported  the state was estimated  to receive $112                                                                    
million from  the Capital Projects  Fund. He  explained that                                                                    
the  state had  to apply  for the  funds. He  clarified that                                                                    
presumably the  legislature would appropriate the  money for                                                                    
a given purpose  and the administration would  apply for the                                                                    
funds. There was no expenditure  cutoff date in ARPA, but he                                                                    
anticipated  Treasury would  include a  limit for  practical                                                                    
purposes.  The  only  current   guidance  from  the  federal                                                                    
government regarding  eligible purposes was included  in the                                                                    
last bullet point on the slide. He read the bullet point:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Can  be used  "to carry  out critical  capital projects                                                                    
     directly   enabling   work,   education,   and   health                                                                    
     monitoring,  including remote  options, in  response to                                                                    
     the  public  health  emergency   with  respect  to  the                                                                    
     Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter   was  hopeful  there  would   be  more  detail                                                                    
available  on May  10 in  terms  of what  projects would  be                                                                    
eligible  for   the  funding.  He  reiterated   his  earlier                                                                    
statement that  the state  would have  several years  to get                                                                    
the funding out; therefore, if  uses for the funding had not                                                                    
been identified  by May 10 it  did not mean the  state would                                                                    
lose the money; it could be determined in future sessions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  referenced the third bullet  related to                                                                    
the allowable use  of the funds on slide 6.  He asked if the                                                                    
project created  work, it would  be a legitimate use  of the                                                                    
funds.  He added  that creating  work was  inherent in  most                                                                    
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  answered that he  did not have  anything beyond                                                                    
the sentence to go on.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool   referenced  Mr.   Painter's  previous                                                                    
statement that  he did  not believe the  money could  be put                                                                    
into  the SBR.  He  asked for  verification  that the  state                                                                    
could put any unused portion of  the money in an account. He                                                                    
asked  if  the state  did  not  want  to spend  the  funding                                                                    
whether it could be put  into a capital fund. Alternatively,                                                                    
he asked  if the funding  would have  to sit in  the General                                                                    
Fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  replied  that  the  SBR  was  essentially  the                                                                    
General  Fund, it  was  merely a  named  account within  the                                                                    
General Fund. He  explained that CARES Act funds  had sat in                                                                    
the  General Fund  as they  were  spent down.  He stated  it                                                                    
could happen  with the ARPA funds  as well. He noted  it was                                                                    
not  necessary  to park  the  funds  someplace else  in  the                                                                    
meantime.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:58:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  referenced the ability to  use the funding                                                                    
to  carry out  critical capital  projects. He  asked if  the                                                                    
funds  could be  used for  the lengthy  and growing  list of                                                                    
deferred  maintenance  on  school buildings  throughout  the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  answered affirmatively as long  as the projects                                                                    
complied  with  the  requirement  that the  projects  be  in                                                                    
response to the public health  emergency. He stated if there                                                                    
was some nexus the projects  were needed to enable education                                                                    
in  response  to COVID-19,  it  would  qualify. He  did  not                                                                    
believe projects  with no nexus  to COVID-19  would qualify.                                                                    
He did not know how narrow or broad the definition may be.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon referred  to Representative  Josephson                                                                    
and Representative  Wool's questions  regarding the  SBR. He                                                                    
asked for clarification on a  scenario where the state spent                                                                    
half of the $1 billion and  held onto the remaining half for                                                                    
future  budget cycles  in the  SBR.  He asked  if the  funds                                                                    
would be subject to the sweep  into the CBR. He asked if the                                                                    
funds would go into the CBR or remain in the SBR.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter replied  that if  the funding  was left  in the                                                                    
General Fund, it  would not be subject to  the sweep because                                                                    
it was federal money.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon   asked  for  verification   that  the                                                                    
funding  did  not necessarily  have  to  go  to the  SBR  to                                                                    
protect it for future use.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  agreed. He  added that the  SBR was  subject to                                                                    
the sweep;  therefore, the funds  would not be  protected in                                                                    
the SBR.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:00:53 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:01:12 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  moved  to  slide   7  considering  timing  and                                                                    
legislative direction.  He provided  a refresher on  how the                                                                    
legislature had  handled the CARES  Act funding in  2020. He                                                                    
clarified that  the funding did  not all go through  the RPL                                                                    
process. He  explained that specific  language had  been put                                                                    
in  the budget  allowing open-ended  federal receipts  to be                                                                    
received  in the  Division of  Public  Health for  workforce                                                                    
training   in  the   Department  of   Labor  and   Workforce                                                                    
Development  (DLWD) and  for  the  Unemployment Program.  He                                                                    
detailed that the language in  the Division of Public Health                                                                    
specified that any federal funds  received in FY 20 could be                                                                    
spent over FY 20 and FY  21 related to COVID. He noted there                                                                    
had been a  $9 million estimate, which had turned  out to be                                                                    
low. The  CARES Act  funding included  over $300  million in                                                                    
the  Coronavirus   Relief  Fund  (CRF)  that   went  out  to                                                                    
nonprofits,  state  agencies,  and the  Division  of  Public                                                                    
Health through the division.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  expounded  that   the  DHSS  commissioner  had                                                                    
approved some requests by another  agency, which referred to                                                                    
the specific  receipt authority  that allowed  the unlimited                                                                    
amount  in addition  to specific  grants. He  explained that                                                                    
hundreds  of millions  in flexible  funds  went through  the                                                                    
language in  addition to less  flexible funds.  He clarified                                                                    
that the RPLs were for areas  that could not go through that                                                                    
same process. The  RPL process was used for  things like the                                                                    
Small  Business  Program  and   the  money  going  to  local                                                                    
communities. He noted it had  been a legislative decision to                                                                    
grant  the  open-ended  appropriation  to  the  Division  of                                                                    
Public Health; the  funding had been included  in the mental                                                                    
health budget  and had been  requested by the governor  as a                                                                    
supplemental  and granted  several  days  later. The  action                                                                    
gave the administration substantial flexibility.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  stated there  was a tradeoff  in the  action of                                                                    
offering the  administration flexibility. The  more narrowly                                                                    
the  legislature   appropriated  the  funds,  it   was  more                                                                    
difficult to  do quickly and  more likely a  special session                                                                    
would be  required if  the guidance changed,  or a  new need                                                                    
arose.  He  explained  that  providing  flexibility  as  the                                                                    
legislature  had  done  the  previous  year,  delegated  the                                                                    
decision making  to the governor.  He noted  the legislature                                                                    
had heard a lot about  the $45 million in unallocated funds.                                                                    
He  explained  it  was  because  the  legislature  gave  the                                                                    
administration     receipt     authority    enabling     the                                                                    
administration to spend  as much as it  received. He advised                                                                    
that if the legislature did  not want the situation to occur                                                                    
again, it  needed to provide more  strict language. However,                                                                    
if the  legislature felt the  flexibility was  justified and                                                                    
the right way to go,  it could provide blanket language. The                                                                    
amount of flexibility the legislature  gave the governor was                                                                    
a policy choice and a tradeoff.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  stated  there  were  a  number  of  goals  the                                                                    
legislature  may   want  to  achieve  with   the  funds.  He                                                                    
explained  that the  legislature  could choose  to focus  on                                                                    
helping the economy with things  like premium pay, grants to                                                                    
unemployed workers, and grants  to businesses and nonprofits                                                                    
in the short-term. The legislature  could choose to focus on                                                                    
investing  in  long-term  items  such  as  water  and  sewer                                                                    
projects   or  economic   development.  Alternatively,   the                                                                    
legislature  could  choose  to focus  on  maintaining  state                                                                    
budget reserve levels by using  funding primarily as revenue                                                                    
replacement. The  legislature could  decide to  pass funding                                                                    
to local governments. He remarked  that AML had stated there                                                                    
was  hundreds of  millions  of dollars  in  lost revenue  in                                                                    
local   governments  and   the  funds   going  directly   to                                                                    
communities would not be sufficient  to replace the loss. He                                                                    
relayed it  was up to  the legislature as  the appropriating                                                                    
body  to  decide  on  its priorities.  He  stated  that  the                                                                    
governor  would  come  forward   with  his  amendments;  the                                                                    
legislature could wait  for the amendments or  do it itself.                                                                    
He underscored legislators were  the appropriators and could                                                                    
decide on the priorities to include in the budget.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:05:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  referenced $9  million in  CARES Act                                                                    
funding the  state had received  that the governor  had been                                                                    
able to  spend as he saw  fit. She asked how  the $9 million                                                                    
had  changed   the  FY  21   budget  in  terms   of  revenue                                                                    
replacement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  answered that it was  currently unclear because                                                                    
the legislature did not know  how the last $45 million would                                                                    
be  spent. He  stated if  it was  spent on  creating lapsing                                                                    
funds  it would  be used  for reductions  of UGF.  He stated                                                                    
that generally  the hundreds of  millions that  went through                                                                    
the  $9  million appropriation  that  was  really over  $400                                                                    
million went  to needs that prevented  supplementals in some                                                                    
cases and  created FY 20  lapse. Generally, it was  not seen                                                                    
in  the budget  creating  the lapse,  but  the lapse  report                                                                    
received  from OMB  had several  million  in specific  areas                                                                    
where some  may be due  to the  funds. He believed  the full                                                                    
effect of  the size of  the lapse  would not be  known until                                                                    
the last $45 million was expended.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson referenced the  $45 million that went                                                                    
through  the  CARES  Act  and RPL  process.  She  asked  for                                                                    
verification that  the funds were still  under the authority                                                                    
of the administration.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  replied in the  affirmative. He  explained that                                                                    
the administration had received  the funding under the open-                                                                    
ended  language specifying  that  anything  the Division  of                                                                    
Public  Health received  in FY  20 the  administration could                                                                    
spend in FY 20 and FY 21.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson   asked  how   the   administration                                                                    
accounted  back to  the legislature  for the  expenditure of                                                                    
the  funds  since they  had  not  been appropriated  by  the                                                                    
legislature  in  the traditional  sense.  She  asked if  the                                                                    
tracking  was  just  through  actuals  in  the  budget.  She                                                                    
thought   it   had  been   difficult   to   track  how   the                                                                    
administration  was spending  the  money. She  asked if  the                                                                    
administration was putting out any reports on the spending.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:09:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter answered in the  affirmative. He relayed that as                                                                    
part of the 2020 disaster  declaration there was a reporting                                                                    
requirement where monthly reports  were sent to legislators.                                                                    
He expounded  that the information continued  to be provided                                                                    
even   after  the   requirement  ended.   Additionally,  the                                                                    
information   was   on   the  OMB   website   with   monthly                                                                    
expenditures on COVID-19 from all sources.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson   remarked  that  even   though  the                                                                    
legislature  was  receiving  the reports,  there  was  still                                                                    
significant  uncertainty   around  the  numbers   that  were                                                                    
continuing to shift. She supposed  it was a matter of giving                                                                    
it a  bit of time. She  stated that a substantial  amount of                                                                    
money was  coming in  quickly and it  was difficult  to make                                                                    
decisions when  it was not  entirely clear  where everything                                                                    
stood. She hoped they would do better in the future.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:10:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter discussed local  fiscal recovery funds estimated                                                                    
at about $230  million on slide 8. He stated  it was unclear                                                                    
which of  the funds required  an appropriation and  which of                                                                    
the funds would  go directly to local  governments. He noted                                                                    
Anchorage  would   receive  at  least  some   of  its  money                                                                    
directly. He noted beyond that,  there were some differences                                                                    
in interpretation that would hopefully  be worked out in the                                                                    
near  future.  He  emphasized  that  the  allocation  was  a                                                                    
federal  formula almost  entirely  based  on population.  He                                                                    
detailed that  44 percent  of the $230  million would  go to                                                                    
Anchorage. He pointed  out that in contrast,  when the state                                                                    
had  allocated $568  million to  local  governments, it  had                                                                    
been distributed based  on a state formula  that resulted in                                                                    
28  percent  going  to  Anchorage.  He  explained  that  the                                                                    
federal payments  were strictly  based on  population, which                                                                    
meant some of the communities  with high revenue losses were                                                                    
not made whole, while  some communities without high revenue                                                                    
losses were  more than  made whole  because they  had higher                                                                    
populations. He  believed the committee  had heard  from AML                                                                    
the  previous  week that  for  many  local governments  with                                                                    
higher  revenue  losses  and  lower  populations,  the  $230                                                                    
million would not be sufficient to pay the bills.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool highlighted  places including the Denali                                                                    
Borough and Skagway that were  heavily impacted. He remarked                                                                    
that there  were other monies discussed  in the presentation                                                                    
out of  the $1  billion that  communities would  be eligible                                                                    
for if they had revenue loss due to COVID.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter answered that it was  not a given the $1 billion                                                                    
would go to that purpose.  He explained that the legislature                                                                    
would have to choose to do so.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  stated   his  understanding  that  the                                                                    
legislature  could choose  to  appropriate additional  money                                                                    
beyond   population    formula   to    certain   communities                                                                    
disproportionately impacted by COVID.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  agreed that it  was an option available  to the                                                                    
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:13:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  looked at slide 7.  He discussed that                                                                    
that the RPL process laws had  been passed in the late 1970s                                                                    
and  possibly the  early 1980s.  He remarked  that the  laws                                                                    
were antiquated  and never contemplated the  enormity of the                                                                    
[federal]  money   coming  into  Alaska  as   was  occurring                                                                    
currently. He observed that based  on Mr. Painter's comment,                                                                    
the legislature had a lot of  say in what the governor could                                                                    
or  could  not do  once  session  ended.  He stated  that  a                                                                    
Department of Law attorney and  a Legislative Legal Services                                                                    
attorney  may  have  two  different  opinions  on  what  the                                                                    
administration   could  do   unilaterally  outside   of  the                                                                    
legislature  being  in  session.  He thought  it  should  be                                                                    
included in the  category of things that were  not known. He                                                                    
remarked  on the  title revised  program language  and noted                                                                    
that no  one in  the current era  really understood  what it                                                                    
meant. He noted the word  revised indicated some tie-in back                                                                    
to the budget  process. He stated there  were more questions                                                                    
about  the  RPL  aspect  setting everything  else  aside  in                                                                    
relation to the avalanche of incoming federal funding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  moved to  slide  9  and discussed  items  with                                                                    
limited  flexibility.  He noted  that  OMB  had covered  the                                                                    
items and he would not go  through each item on the list. He                                                                    
detailed  there  was  approximately $170  million  in  known                                                                    
funding coming in  for DHSS. He stated  that the legislature                                                                    
could  choose   whether  to  give  the   department  receipt                                                                    
authority  for $170  million or  keep it  open-ended as  had                                                                    
been done the previous year.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:15:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Painter  discussed   education   items  with   limited                                                                    
flexibility  on  slide 10.  He  reported  that at  least  90                                                                    
percent  of the  incoming federal  funding for  K-12 schools                                                                    
had to go  to school districts. There  were some allocations                                                                    
for particular  purposes that  specified maximum  or minimum                                                                    
amounts  depending  on  the item.  Additionally,  there  was                                                                    
funding  that may  not  pass through  the  state, which  was                                                                    
designated  for non-public  schools,  higher education,  and                                                                    
specific  education functions  like museums,  libraries, the                                                                    
Alaska Council on the Arts, and Head Start.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz referenced  a maximum  of 2.5  percent for                                                                    
other state  activities shown  on slide 10.  He asked  for a                                                                    
definition of other state activities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter replied that he did not know.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter moved  to  slide 11  and  continued to  discuss                                                                    
education items with limited  flexibility. He referenced the                                                                    
substantial  discussion on  the  maintenance  of effort  and                                                                    
maintenance of equity earlier in  the meeting. He emphasized                                                                    
there was a waiver process, and  the state did not know when                                                                    
it would  know whether  it would have  a waiver.  The waiver                                                                    
was  designed  for   states  with  disproportionate  revenue                                                                    
impact.  He  relayed that  Alaska  had  the highest  revenue                                                                    
impact in the  country; therefore, if any  states received a                                                                    
waiver, he believed Alaska would  be included. He added that                                                                    
the  consequences of  the waiver  were not  fully known.  He                                                                    
detailed  that two-thirds  of the  Elementary and  Secondary                                                                    
School Emergency  Relief (ESSER)  funding would  be received                                                                    
immediately.  The   state  would  have  to   apply  for  the                                                                    
remaining  one-third   and  would  have  to   include  state                                                                    
certification of  compliance with the maintenance  of effort                                                                    
or an  approved waiver.  The state  did not  yet know  if it                                                                    
would receive the  remaining one-third of the  funding if it                                                                    
did not qualify. He explained  that with the CRRSAA funding,                                                                    
the state  had received all  of the funds before  the waiver                                                                    
process had started.  He relayed it was  very uncertain what                                                                    
the consequences  would be  of failing to  get a  waiver and                                                                    
not being able to meet the provision.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:17:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool referenced  Mr. Painter's statement that                                                                    
Alaska had suffered the most  impact. He thought much of the                                                                    
impact  the state  had  felt was  due to  the  absence of  a                                                                    
broad-based tax. He  remarked that some states  with a sales                                                                    
and  income tax  saw  a  boon from  COVID  due to  increased                                                                    
taxable online sales and  increased taxable stock dividends.                                                                    
He was not certain unemployment  checks in Alaska were taxed                                                                    
as income. He  had seen maps showing Alaska was  way off the                                                                    
chart, but  much of it  had to do  with the state's  lack of                                                                    
revenue  recouperation  and not  so  much  that the  state's                                                                    
economy was any more impacted  than others. He asked whether                                                                    
it was Mr. Painter's understanding.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  agreed  that  the   state's  lack  of  revenue                                                                    
diversification had  contributed to the situation.  He noted                                                                    
that Institute of Social and  Economic Research (ISER) had a                                                                    
slide  in  a  previous presentation  showing  that  personal                                                                    
incomes in Alaska  had increased in 2020.  He explained that                                                                    
if the state  had an income tax, it would  not have seen the                                                                    
collection change much due to  all of the federal money that                                                                    
went   directly  to   individuals.  He   relayed  that   the                                                                    
projection of  oil prices at  $61 per barrel instead  of the                                                                    
$69  per  barrel  in  FY  19,  meant  Alaska's  revenue  was                                                                    
significantly lower  because of the state's  reliance on oil                                                                    
as a revenue source.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool surmised that the  drop in oil price had                                                                    
impacted Alaska  more than  other states  including Oklahoma                                                                    
and Texas.  He understood the aforementioned  states were on                                                                    
the  list of  high impact;  however, they  had been  able to                                                                    
recuperate  some  of  the  revenue. He  asked  if  the  $300                                                                    
million  for  education   could  displace  operating  budget                                                                    
monies. Alternatively,  he asked if  the funds had to  be in                                                                    
addition to operating budget funds.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  answered that  if the state  used the  funds to                                                                    
displace operating  budget money,  Alaska would  likely fail                                                                    
the maintenance  of effort because it  was specifically tied                                                                    
to non-federal funds.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter moved  to slide 12 and discussed  items in other                                                                    
agencies with limited flexibility.  He stated there was more                                                                    
money  coming  in  on  the  Federal  Transit  Administration                                                                    
infrastructure grants.  He detailed  that some of  the funds                                                                    
may go directly to Anchorage  and Fairbanks and $2.7 million                                                                    
would  come  to the  state  for  rural areas.  Additionally,                                                                    
there was funding  coming in for the  Alaska Housing Finance                                                                    
Corporation   and  emergency   management   grants  to   the                                                                    
Department of  Military and Veterans  Affairs. Additionally,                                                                    
there  would   be  another  federally   funded  unemployment                                                                    
compensation  boost  that  would go  through  the  state-run                                                                    
program.   The  federal   bill   added  a   $300  per   week                                                                    
supplemental payment  through September 6, 2021  and changed                                                                    
the federal  tax law  so the  first $10,200  of unemployment                                                                    
benefits  would be  nontaxable  income  for households  with                                                                    
adjusted gross income up to  $150,000. He noted typically it                                                                    
was a taxable  income source. As with  the previous expanded                                                                    
federal    unemployment    payments,    self-employed    and                                                                    
contractors  were  eligible  for  the payment  even  if  not                                                                    
eligible under normal state rules.  He noted the funds would                                                                    
go  directly  through  the state's  program  but  would  not                                                                    
directly impact the state's budget.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:21:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  looked  at  slide  5  related  to                                                                    
eligible  uses (of  the state  fiscal recovery  fund), which                                                                    
included assistance  to households. He asked  if the federal                                                                    
government  would tolerate  Alaska  paying a  PFD under  the                                                                    
clause.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  answered that he  did not know. He  stated that                                                                    
one  of  the  questions  was whether  the  payments  had  to                                                                    
specifically be to households impacted  by COVID. He relayed                                                                    
that it was something the guidance may be able to clarify.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster thanked Mr. Painter for his presentation.                                                                       
He reviewed the schedule for the afternoon meeting, which                                                                       
would begin at 2:00 p.m.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:23:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 11:23 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB79 Explanation of Changes ver. A to B 3.17.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 79
HB79 Public Testimony as of 040221.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 79
HB79 Sectional Analysis ver. B 3.17.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 79
HB79 Support Doc - Logbook Use Summary 2.18.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 79
HB79 Transmittal Letter 1.28.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 79
HB80 Transmittal Letter 1.28.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 80
HB 80 Public Testimony as of 040221.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 80
HB80 Explanation of Changes ver B 3.17.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 80
HB80 Sectional Analysis - ver. A 2.17.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 80
HB80 Letter of Support - Lost in AK Adventures 3.9.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 80
HB80 Support Doc - Stocking FAQ Revised 2.24.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 80
HB80 Support Doc - Surcharge Revenue Breakdown 1.27.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 80
HB 79 New FN DFG SF 040221.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 79
HB 80 New FN DFG SF 040221.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 80
HB80 Support Doc - Surcharge Revenue Breakdown 4.2.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 80
ARP 0. Attachment Table of Contents.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
ARP - HFIN Presentation
ARP 1. OMB Color-Coded Federal Relief Funding 4.7.2021.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
ARP - HFIN Presentation
ARP 2. AK CRF Allocations 4.7.2021.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
ARP - HFIN Presentation
ARP 3. US Senate Final State and Local Allocation Estimates 03.08.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
ARP - HFIN Presentation
ARP 5. Education COVID Relief Funds School District Allocations 3.24.2021.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
ARP - HFIN Presentation
ARP 4. CCSSO Webinar on MOE Slides 3.17.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
ARP - HFIN Presentation
ARP 6. NGA ARP State and Local Funding Questions to Treasury 3.18.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
ARP - HFIN Presentation
HFIN ARP Provisions LFD.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
ARP - HFIN Presentation
HFIN OMB COVID Funding Overview 4.8.21.pdf HFIN 4/8/2021 9:00:00 AM
ARP - HFIN Presentation